ASDF (Bad Critic; No Biscuit!)
Oct. 11th, 2007 01:21 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
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dreamburnt gave me some other cool thing about RP stuff, and then I somehow stumbled into this one further along the main page.
Sci-Fi fans rawk hardxcore but FANTASY FEN ARE LOSERS HAH.
Specifically:
"[...]particularly as, for many fantasy readers, the plot is little more than a delivery system through which to get at the characters and the setting."
*Frothy flail of frothy flailiness.*
I. But. Well.
That's what a plot is, that's what a plot is for, people who like long, stupidly twisty plots For Their Own Sake do not read fantasy; they do not read sci-fi either, generally, NO, SIR, THEY READ detective novels.
(I like detective novels, too, but there you have it.)
I think what grates on me, more than all the "boo hiss mainstream fantasy" crap, is the fact that he just plain Does Not Like something I heartily enjoy, and is pissing on it mightily in the name of Brilliantly Intellectual TRUTH.
Because science fiction is SO MUCH BETTER.
It hurts my jaw, really, all this clenching.
Let me explain something for you: when I am reading to relax, I DO NOT WANT TO THINK.
I wish I could lie and say that I did and do, that I honestly and most truly love to think all the time, that precise analytic cogitations of vast arithmetic and numerical power are my favorite and most consuming hobby....
But no. When I am reading to relax, it is primarily a) to feed my demons, b) to appease my demons, c) as an outlet for sundry frustrations and/or tmi alternative or d) ADD A, B, C, RUN LOOP, END.
I have neither illusions nor delusions about my favorite media. (This is the correct literal plural of "medium" in the artistic/frou frou sense, NOT "mediums", and see, that Intro to Design class was worth some of the money I paid for it.)
I just resent someone getting out their But It's Icky! (TM) gloves and finger-raping it sideways without lube.
omg dun liek dun read.
HONESTLY.
Such a brilliant and reasonable fan of perfectly logical highly literary specimens of sci-fi should be able to comphrehend the general idea of not opening Pandora's box. Or whatever it is Smart People know better than to open. Some sort of wormhole, perhaps. Because those aren't impossible, just improbable. *Snort.*
It's called a metaphor; it's a figurative or illustrative method of speaking, rather than the discrete. It's okay, I know it hurts the first time, maybe if I held your hand it would come easier.
Meantime, I'll be over here with my stupid mainstream sheep-cow books of minimal effort for maximum reward. Moo. Baa. Et cetera. Ad nauseam.
No, okay, now I'm done, and also going to sleep.
I have a headache.
(I may come back later with a follow-up point, which is, simply, that the notion of no effort = heaps of reward just plain old makes sense, but I'm fundamentally Newtonian and macrocosmic in my understanding of anything scientific, and so it would be laughably common-sensical, and common sense causes most "hard" or "pure" sci-fi scenarios to IMPLODE UTTERLY.)
O vitriol, thou art ruinous upon my retinae but so pretty to goggle at.
And there was much *eyestrain-induced wincing.*
dreamburnt gave me some other cool thing about RP stuff, and then I somehow stumbled into this one further along the main page.Sci-Fi fans rawk hardxcore but FANTASY FEN ARE LOSERS HAH.
Specifically:
"[...]particularly as, for many fantasy readers, the plot is little more than a delivery system through which to get at the characters and the setting."
*Frothy flail of frothy flailiness.*
I. But. Well.
That's what a plot is, that's what a plot is for, people who like long, stupidly twisty plots For Their Own Sake do not read fantasy; they do not read sci-fi either, generally, NO, SIR, THEY READ detective novels.
(I like detective novels, too, but there you have it.)
I think what grates on me, more than all the "boo hiss mainstream fantasy" crap, is the fact that he just plain Does Not Like something I heartily enjoy, and is pissing on it mightily in the name of Brilliantly Intellectual TRUTH.
Because science fiction is SO MUCH BETTER.
It hurts my jaw, really, all this clenching.
Let me explain something for you: when I am reading to relax, I DO NOT WANT TO THINK.
I wish I could lie and say that I did and do, that I honestly and most truly love to think all the time, that precise analytic cogitations of vast arithmetic and numerical power are my favorite and most consuming hobby....
But no. When I am reading to relax, it is primarily a) to feed my demons, b) to appease my demons, c) as an outlet for sundry frustrations and/or tmi alternative or d) ADD A, B, C, RUN LOOP, END.
I have neither illusions nor delusions about my favorite media. (This is the correct literal plural of "medium" in the artistic/frou frou sense, NOT "mediums", and see, that Intro to Design class was worth some of the money I paid for it.)
I just resent someone getting out their But It's Icky! (TM) gloves and finger-raping it sideways without lube.
omg dun liek dun read.
HONESTLY.
Such a brilliant and reasonable fan of perfectly logical highly literary specimens of sci-fi should be able to comphrehend the general idea of not opening Pandora's box. Or whatever it is Smart People know better than to open. Some sort of wormhole, perhaps. Because those aren't impossible, just improbable. *Snort.*
It's called a metaphor; it's a figurative or illustrative method of speaking, rather than the discrete. It's okay, I know it hurts the first time, maybe if I held your hand it would come easier.
Meantime, I'll be over here with my stupid mainstream sheep-cow books of minimal effort for maximum reward. Moo. Baa. Et cetera. Ad nauseam.
No, okay, now I'm done, and also going to sleep.
I have a headache.
(I may come back later with a follow-up point, which is, simply, that the notion of no effort = heaps of reward just plain old makes sense, but I'm fundamentally Newtonian and macrocosmic in my understanding of anything scientific, and so it would be laughably common-sensical, and common sense causes most "hard" or "pure" sci-fi scenarios to IMPLODE UTTERLY.)
O vitriol, thou art ruinous upon my retinae but so pretty to goggle at.
And there was much *eyestrain-induced wincing.*
